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godofwar #valhalla #review In this video, I will finally give my thoughts on God of War Ragnarok Valhalla.
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godofwar #valhalla #review In this video, I will finally give my thoughts on God of War Ragnarok Valhalla.
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I like to think Kratos’ soliloquy is indicative of a larger theme with ragnarok, the entire game is presented as a theatrical stage production. From Mimir and Kratos speaking about Greek plays and how the game follows the unbroken perspective of Kratos and Atreus, to how the Norns speak in stage terminology, to how Atreus quite literally exits stage left at the end of the game. Ragnarok is presented like one of the tales of old Kratos would be around to witness, and the Soliloquy, while not being entirely necessary for Kratos himself to understand, is a necessary part of the play as well. Where Kratos can bare all to himself. Remember he is an incredibly introspective character, so much so that it took well over 7 games just to get him to open up about his basic issues, so where better to have this moment then with himself in a place that literally reflects his mind, and with nobody else present?
Finished Valhalla earlier today
Loved it and it really was Kratos's first therapy session
Had some Amazing quotes from Tyr and Mimir
That Final Scene at The Throne is just Perfect
I’m sick of simp Kratos
So we're not gonna talk about the fact that after beating the game you get a young kratos skin which makes you look like young kratos and the armor young kratos was wearing and that you can also use it in the main story of god of war ragnarok. Or the fact that Tyr uses egyptian, japanese and greek weapons. Or the fact that Helios is an @sshole throughout the entire playthrough. Also he does talk about his family. There are collectibles in the DLC (the captain's key, Calliope's flute, Lysandra's pendant.) And you have to collect each three times and everytime you collect it he says a little bit about the story later. Like the fact that saving the boat captain would've cost him nothing as the captain was just a man who feared for his life but he just killed him. Saying "the hydra was just an animal but i showed him what a true monster looked like." or that he talks about needing to push away Calliope to save the world. And that he regrets that choice not knowing how much time he could've spend with Calliope and that every decade that past that he wished he could trade that for even an hour with Calliope and that that feeling went away after meeting Faye. Or Lysandra and how he says "she was a good wife but i was a bad husband." he does talk about them and the tragedy he felt. And HELIOS! Helios in battle was like "on your left dumbass." or the "Ah yes i think he agrees with me." or even Mimir and Tyr getting annoyed by Helios. Just imagine if it was Hermes instead. Then the norse games would've had two fast annoying @sshole gods. I think Heimdall and Hermes would be good friends.
I just feel like they turned him into a pussy! You don't kill anyone in this game and shouldn't even be called a God of war game. So pathetic compared to the other games
They should be Added more Cosmetic for The Blade of Chaos, Like Red Athena Blades Skin when you Immolation, Fire Changes into Gold. Or The Blade of Exile.
I really enjoyed Valhalla, although its MEGA frustrating having to go all the way back to the start if you die, and it seems pretty repetitive for sure. Kratos fighting his memories etc was a cool idea but it seemed like a missed opportunity to include some of thr better charactes he has killed, some Greek Gods, the Barbarian King etc…but it was free so we cant really complain too much. There is so much cool thongs you can do with the characters and stories I dont think fand will ever be 100% happy with what we are given.
Imo the whole point of the Norse series is that Kratos has changed. This change comes in many forms- letting go of rage, learning to accept your mistakes but also not let them define you, being a more present father-then immediately learning to give your child space, and I think the biggest growth of all would be his openness.
Yes, it’s a tad unlike Kratos to show that much interest in peoples stories but there is more it than that. He understands that these people are in need of some therapy as well. Tyr was providing it for him, he is just returning the favor. These Valkyries helped him defeat Odin and survive Ragnarok
As for Mimir, I am so happy we got this extra time with them together. Mimir has provided Kratos with so much counsel I can 100% believe that Kratos is truly invested and wants to help.
Kratos came to terms with killing his family back in God Of War 3. He did feel terrible about having to leave his daughter in Elysium in Chains Of Olympus, and how he doesn't remember her song. Hence why she is mentioned but not how he killed her and his wife.
I do agree that they should have added some greek God as a boss. Having the berserkers in the area where you fought Hercules, made no sense.
I don't think that Kratos being this "super nice guy" towards Mimir by showing interest in his love life, is not really out of character.
Think about it. What did 2018 and Ragnarök teach us about Kratos? : He was very stoic, almost cold, he kept taking things without showing gratitude.
He only thanked Freya for saving Atreus. But he never once thanked Brok and Sindri for their work until much much later.
And Sindri also pointed out how Kratos and Atreus just kept taking. Now we also got Mimir, someone who has been like a caring brother to Kratos.
Offering guidance, counsel, and words of encouragement whenever he could. Kratos realised this, expressed a few times in Ragnarök of how much he appreciates Mimir, and how much he has learned from him. Just like in the real world, saying thank you is often just an empty gesture. The best way to thank someone is by showing appreciation through action, not just words, and support them back whenever you can.
In summary: Kratos isn't being a "super nice guy". He is reciprocating the kindness and support that has been given to him by Mimir. He would not act this way towards just about anyone.
Spoilers be abound read at your own risk
Oh you little rebel you. You're reading anyway. 😉
I honestly thought the end was that the co-chair would include marriage to Freya. I was kinda hoping that would be the case.
He just found peace man
Still watching the video, but one rogue like indie game that differ from others and has a good story is Spelunky and it's sequel Spelunky2. And they use mythology. Love both, you should try it!
Based on your reactions it was obvious you liked the DLC a lot! So I expected a reasonable review with some minor things to improve. Instead I got this irrational bullshit.
You just can't please these spoiled "but the old games were better" type of people. Nostalfags unable to enjoy an incredible game for what it is and wanting it to have more of what's nostalgic to them, less of this, more of that other thing. Unable to accept change, growth, matureness.
And what's even worse, you couldn't admit that you loved the game even if you did. You had to nitpick whatever little stupid thing that came to your mind because you can't admit this can be just as great a saga as the Greek one. You just can't. Even if you believed it, you couldn't admit it, not even to yourself.
You must keep the position of "old game better durr durr" at all costs. It's stronger than you. We all have nostalgia, but we can be rational about it.
You're unable to change, to grow, to accept what is and what isn't. It's no wonder you didn't like the main story… You're everything Kratos isn't in this saga. Wilfully and proudly stuck in the past. Of course this would be "cringey" to a person like you.
Be better. Grow up already.
Also, "Kratos can't care about others because I'm a good person and I don't care about people's lives". Ok? Really, buddy? That's the best you could do at nitpicking? If you can't find what's wrong with that mindset, or with that rationale even, you're doomed.
4:54 you should have kept playing.
Wasn’t Kratos talking to young Kratos?
I wonder if it's possible that in future Wes get to play as Tyr since he's a god of war and since he's the one who has travelled to all of these different lands. I wonder if this DLC was a teaing us and showcasing how badass Tyr is. As much as I like Kratos’s weaponry I wanna get my hands on Tyr’s. If we ever play as Tyr in future gimme a shoutout lol
Hated how they kind of made it like a dark souls game where you die and start over it was too repetitive hope they never put that in God of war ever again
The only thing in Valhalla I really wanted is to fight young kratos as the final boss fight.
I just had a though with all the giants bodies atreus could take the marbles and bring them back to life after realizing when he comes back with some years and experiences all his own. Then with angrobodas help and guidance he brings them back.
Hey Cuba i have a quistion, in the storyline of gow ragnarok when loki was in jötunheim hé made the worldserpent with a Ball with a giant in it, that means that the worldserpent someone was before hé was a serpent, but who?
If they do more God of war games it won't be god of war, it won't include Kratos at all but focus on Atreus, i figured that was super clear. It could be considered a spin off though, so in that case, this is the final god of war we will ever get unless someone gets bold to recast the characters and retcon the story.
Bro are you Anton Petrov's little bro?
5:22 nah that take more time, adding baulder maybe nice but all those other greek characters would of extend production & would not meet the video games award deadline announcement
Point to point ahh this is exactly how I felt at Ending 😑
I saw this as the perfect setup for the next gow game.
there are still open questions on the norse saga, but im willing to let that go with like a story that follows atreus in a new place and kratos after years of serving in the norse realm, would come to his aid.
theres a lot of small details of course but this seems like the best way to go if kratos is an important part of the future of this saga.
After finishing your video I feel you are missing the complete point of what this story is becoming and the character building reason. He has always wanted to be rid of his past. In order to truly do that. He must not be a monster anymore. He must be a man. A good man.
Did you not actually finish finish Valhalla? There’s 4 more memories after you finish the initial story. Including his wife and duaghter
Kuba I think I have an interesting theory. So in Gow 2 kratos gets back in time to take the titans from the great war and takes all of them to his time right? Well without the "past" Gaia knowing that she would unite with kratos then this explains why she betrayed him at the start of gow 3
Kaptain! I realized while playing Valhalla, the trophy you get once you beat it that looks like the shrine of kratos, is the way kratos walks out of Valhalla! I bet the shrine was meant to prophesies kratos mastering Valhalla and being worshipped because of that!
So Freya said she couldn't go into Valhalla because she never died… But how is Týr in Valhalla has he died or is it a plot hole?
Wait, so that’s not actually Helios that’s just kratos’s memory of him?
When modi first appeared and I saw the lightning I thought it was zeus 😭
I mostly agree with you that it does feel a bit strange to see Kratos care about things like Mimir's love life, however I sort of have a different outlook on this. While it is true that most people would not be interested in this sort of thing the way that Kratos is portrayed Kratos isn't most people. He doesn't really know how to engage with people. So how do you learn? You practice. Showing (or at least pretending to show) interest is the sort of practice that Kratos needs in order to learn to bond with people again. Children will say ludicrous things when they are little, partly because they don't have a social filter to understand how potentially hurtful, silly, or outright strange some of the things they are saying can be. But they don't care because they are trying to learn how to interact. I think Kratos is sort of a child in the area of empathy and connection with others so while his attempts to show interest are a bit heavy handed, they are also necessary for his development. If they take this sort of approach in later games, I do hope that tone down this side of him in order to show that he has moved on from that phase. I am fine with it here… but not if it continues later in the franchise.
I like to think that Kratos is speaking more philosophical to himself because it's in his native Greek instead of Old Norse, and he can therefore voice his complex inner feelings better.
I also think he wants to talk to Mimir about his love life not because he cares about the relationship, but because he cares about Mimir emotional wellbeing.
Did you notice the way Kratos comes out of Valhalla is same as he is depicted on the mural at the end of God of war Ragnarok.
He carries his axe on the shoulder and stands proud.
I just now noticed this detail. I hope this makes it way to you Kuba.
Kratos has always had a lot to say in my opinion, hell he was extremely vocal in the Greek games. And to me, the soliloquy makes perfect sense. Kratos maybe wont talk a ton to OTHER people, but it makes sense that at the peak of his epiphany about himself, he would vocalize it in private. Its just that up until now he has been so burdened (all of his pain in the Greek saga and worrying over atreus in the Norse saga) that the poor guy has barely had an actual moment alone with his thoughts. That is also partly because he has, self admittedly, run from these problems in the past (literally sailing away from Greece). In that private moment with nobody except for the LITERAL mistakes of his past, Kratos is finally able to open up to himself.
And kratos listening to other people's stories more makes sense. He has already demonstrated that he likes to talk about and learn about interesting and worthy people , as we saw with the story of Atreus' namesake. Atreus even comments that that was a good story that even Mimir would be sad he missed out on. There was also the time he told Atreus the story before Ragnarok. Kratos enjoys AND likes listening to stories. Hell, half his relationship with Mimir is based on that. I also kinda think its cute how art seems to play a theme in Kratos' family. Atreus is a painter/drawer, Calliope played the flute (or was it a pan pipe?), and Kratos is a secret thespian/story teller haha.
You do not know how badly I wanted colaiope to be in Valhalla but not as a child as a teen like Atreus. I feel that it would’ve created an emotional and forever memorable cutscene