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A woman defends herself against SA and you call her "violent"?!
It's great that a company mods established lore to promote their movie?!
How does Kira change skin tone significantly from baby to teen?!
The Druid and the Sorcerer look like they're 12 yo. Was this intentional to 'attract the youngins'?!
What's with only the Barbarian having era-appropriate underarm hair? Why no other women?!
You support the body shaming with the obese dragon?!
The makeup on the non-humans seemed a little fake to me. YMMV.
I didn't like the D&D movie. Was it meant to troll the d&d fans? What level was that druid with so many shape changes?
What I love most about this movie is how it was clearly made by fans and for fans.
Although not player of DnD myself, I spent some time on college with our localised spin-off TTRPG and could felt like MANY of the situations could happen during gaming session.
PS: I feel sad DnD movie wasn't finacial success, but maybe the budget was just too high (I'm tremediously happy it came to be, but I doubt we will get this kind of flick any time soon). And chinese plague didn't help, neither the bulshit Hasbro was doing.
A little late to the game (so to speak.) I hadn't watched because of bad word of mouth. Finally watched this week and at least from my perspective it's just how the groups I play with play D&D. Stupid jokes, bad plans that manage to work out in the end, forgotten "rules" or actions… It's not LOTR, it's goofballs playing at fantasy.
It's not going to be my favorite movie but I'm reasonably sure I will watch it more than once.
I’ve never played D&D before and know nothing about the lore. I, however, love fantasy as a genre. As you suspected, I was initially put off by the title of the movie but as soon as I watched the trailer I was intrigued. Can’t say enough great things about the movie – good dialogue, wonderful action scenes, strong acting, funny, very likable characters and (IMO) very good CGI. I didn’t feel like I was missing out at all by not being a D&D enthusiast.
I'm happy people like it because I want people to enjoy things. But… Yuck.
I disagree about Doric. She is working and starting to trust humans
I really enjoyed this movie. Loved Doric
I felt the title was forcing D&D, so I decided not to watch it when it first came out. Fortunately I rented it, and watched it with the family. We have since started a new campaign together.
I am all in for the D&D Movie and I want moar right now. Sign me up for the next one, Plox.
Finally saw it last night. This really was the best D&D movie ever. Not perfect perhaps, but miles above anything else they've tried. Very well done. I disagree with you on this tho. Doric was as important to the story as Simon. She contributed in ways none of the others could do. And that scene with her and Sophia was priceless. And if that paladin wasn't the classic OP DMPC, they don't exist. I really genuinely enjoyed this movie. Spoiler ahead:
Shame WOTC and Hasbro are dead to me. (not the spoiler)
How is it that every franchise Michelle is in manages to kill her and bring her back? Weird!
One tiny bit in a fight scene where a spell caster gets their mouth covered, stopping the somatic component of their spell casting, allowing the opponent to escape
I don't like how Dorik is just a girl with horns, could have commited a little more to the true aesthetics of tieflings and add some body paint.
To me it was a by-the-numbers marvel movie where they swapped "fantasy themed" for "gits who go around with their underwear on the outside of their trousers". They even had the sky beam. It was exactly the sort of movie I had already sworn I would stop paying for in disguise.
Doric and Simon had completely separate roles and purposes in the film. Combining them would have lost more than it gained.
This movie felt so much like a group of players playing DnD I absolutely adored it. Bought the bluray
" I find Irony cuts he who wields it most especially" best line ever. Also particularly like the " well thats a little hurtful" moment.
One joke it took me awhile to get was when Forge told Edgin he looked like a well read fisherman, with secrets. Edgin and his family lived in Targos. The largest fishing town in the Ten-Towns. When he wasnt doing things for the Harpers he would have been working on the boats catching knucklehead trout to cover living expenses.
Its probably not an easter egg but i loved how in so much of the combat, notably one part where the soldiers punch one at a time, and then Holga attacks with the bow, it really felt like you could see the actions playing out piece by piece on the board
The only issue I had with it is that Doric used her Wild Shape (Change Shape) seven times when her official stat block says she can do it five times. Easy enough to fix for me, Wizards… 😂
Then… maybe her DM wasn't paying attention and her Player took advantage of the situation.
Some of the weirdness of the movie (like why Doric only used Wild Shape a lot) suddenly made sense when a friend pointed something out.
Spoilers ahead.
None of the main adventuring party were allowed to do the same thing any of the others could presumably to simplify the archetypes for the average movie-goer; The Sorcerer casts spells, so none of the others can actively cast anything. Holga was great with weapons and martial combat, so the others couldn't really handle themselves in a fight. Doric's Wild Shape was used for espionage because Forge was the party Rogue so none of the others could do typical Rogue things. This left Edgin the Bard with just giving pep talks (Bardic Inspiration helping Holga break free and Simon's T9 counterspell come to mind) and being there because the party needed a face (which meant the Sorcerer couldn't be traditionally charismatic either). If there's a sequel I hope there's more overlap of skills for the adventuring party.
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Gotta say, I agree on the criticism of the name.
D&D is not a story. D&D is not a set of characters. D&D is not a world.
D&D is a ruleset, nothing else.
So when some money-hungry exec gets the idea to make "the D&D movie," idk wtf they mean by that! And I'm a ttrpg player! I'd have even less of an idea of what to expect if I wasn't a ttrpg player.
Finally watched the movie. It was a ton of fun. Felt like an adventure that was shortened down in a retelling, but kept everything important. The DMPC paladin Xenc guy stayed as long as he needed, and left as soon as he wasn't. The party was pretty fun though i do wish the bard character way actually able to do something more with his music. The sorcerer was pretty cool, I liked that as he got more confident his magic seemed to get more powerful as well, like his charisma based magic came from his confidence that his spells would work. The more sure if himself he was, the stronger the magic was. And i like he was a wild magic sorcerer as well. I like they used the actual dragon from the canon in the underdark part and kept that he was a chonky boy. I'd definitely let the druid turn into an owlbear if they had seen one. Rule of cool is worth it sometimes. Sofina was a fun boss character setting up the bigger boss. Forge was just what i expected when they introduced him as a conman. One of my favorite jokes in the movie is near the beginning when they're escaping using the arococra and the judges reveal they were going to be released if they hadn't. Feels like something a DM would reveal at that specific time.
Also tom morello was in the audience of the arena! Hes a famous dnd head
Some of the stones in the chonky dragons dungeon were hexes 🙂
Thank you for this review. This sounds like a movie I would have enjoyed.
I'm not a D&D fan, but I love fantasy and adventure.
I liveyd this movie despite not getting all the Easter eggs. It's a great movie, plain and simple.
I watched the movie with 3 people totally unfamiliar with D&D. And they all found it to be the most entertaining movie they watched in a long time. We really enjoyed it. but yeah… i had to explain afterwards why, at some scenes, i was laughing so much harder than them…
conclusion: fun movie for everyone. even funnier movie for roleplayers. especially when i watched a scene and could literally feel the players behind the characters. like when the bridge collapsed… i was like: "yup, thats totally XY (one of my players)!"
Played D&D in 1984 for week.
That entire week was just people arguing about their characters.
This 2.5 hour movie was like 50 bazillion times better than that week.
My two biggest gripes with the movie (in a relatively spoiler free summary) are probably pretty obvious for most people.
Tl;Dr mostly because it gets a little long and borders on spoilers at times: Too much of the movie was spoiled by the trailers, and too many of the obstacles in the movie were just swept aside because somebody knew somebody with all of the answers or because somebody already had the items they needed, so all of the obstacles were at most minor inconveniences with the solution always being either "I know a guy" or "oh I have one of those." Bonus gripe for when I realized that the vast majority of the movie could have been cut out without affecting the outcome anyway.
First, as this non-spoiler review heavily indicates, it's really hard to spoil a movie that included so much of the plot, gags, and twists in the trailers. If I hadn't seen a single trailer for this movie, it would have been easily two to three times as enjoyable. I'd have been laughing the whole time, eagerly looking forward to how the story advanced, and I'd have been heavily engaged. Instead, watching the movie was more like marking off a checklist for what I saw in the trailer, and most of the laughs were traded for "oh, yeah, so that's what was happening in the trailer, got it." D&D is not the only franchise guilty of this, as recently the Mario movie was pretty heavily guilty of this, and the MCU is historically awful about this, I'm just saying that having seen ANY trailers for Honor Among Thieves was in part a problem for the movie.
More specifically to the movie, I really wish there had been more variety to the conflict resolution. I realize that the pacing of the movie was basically someone trying to explain a months long campaign to a friend that didn't know anything about D&D in under 2 hours, but it seemed like the solution to literally every problem was just the "I know a guy" trope over and over again. Need a magic caster? I know a guy. Need a druid? I know a guy. Need a magic item? I know a dead guy. Need an oddly specific NPC? We all know that guy. Messed up the puzzle and cant get the item? I took the exact item we needed from this guy I knew. To quote the "Pitch Meeting" script guy, every conflict resolution was "super easy, barely an inconvenience." When SO much of the fun chaos in D&D can be boiled down to "what crazy shenanigans did the players throw at the DM's careful plan this time?", it felt like this movie was afraid to be creative. Plump and grumpy dragon wakes up and attacks the party? If this Druid can become an owl bear, why can't they become a Dragonborn or some other tiny/sub-dragon thing and try to reason with or distract the dragon? The sorcerer is has been pretty useless, let them get a spell wrong and have it work out to their advantage (or you know, maybe explore what makes them a sorcerer and not a wizard in the first place, since we have zero indication of what sort of innate magical bloodline he came from, other than maybe Wild Magic for no reason in a family of wizards). There were dozens of ways to handle every obstacle that was thrown at the party, and yet they always defaulted back to either knowing someone with all of the answers or already having the items they needed in the first place. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, by the end of the movie most of the things they took their time gathering and focusing on ended up not actually serving any significant purposes. Yeah, with the exception of a little character growth on Simon's part, you could have actually cut out literally everything after the party first gathered together and the end result would have been the same. Didn't realize that until just now.
In the final battle where our heroes have just taken Forge's ship and Sofina is starting to activate the horn one of the gamblers says "What's THAT ONE on about?". The other says "Who knows? Twenty thousand on the Gray Hands!" The Gray Hands are also known as "FORCE GRAY" and they're under the DIRECT COMMAND of the city of Waterdeep!
I completely disagree with your "hang-up" about the Tiefling Druid character 4:35 – just because you dont understand or relate to her character development personally doesn't mean she wasnt able to connect with others – I found her character was played perfectly with the right amount of character development to keep the movie under 3 hours – tbh – I would have LOVED to see more about aLL the characters but dont start ripping on characters you dont "get" The scene where Pine outlined and owns his mistake cements the bonds for the entire group INCLUDING the Tiefling and her mistrust of humans in general perhaps outling certain charisma bonuses Pine's character had? Yea Im sorry to disagree with you so strongly but you remove her character and you lose the movie imo – no character in this cast is expendable – the story is that well-written.
90% Critic/ 93% Audience score on Rotten Tomatoes. You do NOT have to be a fan of D&D to enjoy this movie – this is a fantastic ride of an adventure that leaves you caring about every character before it's all over and very satisfied. This is a must-see!
To me the movie was good , but not 19/20 more like 15/20, good not perfect :p
Aside from Doric kind of having a weak arc (but an arc nontheless), I had some minor nitpicks, but I haven't actually even mentioned them to anyone because it would feel petty considering how, just, SOLID the movie is.
I really like that Dragon Magazine cover art on your wall. I had that magazine cover tacked on my wall when I was a teenager in the late 90's (When you could find something like that at the local bookstore.)
The prisoner looked like a hobgoblin…
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There are several ways I think it would be better to see the movie without D&D game knowledge. My whole group went and saw it and there several times where I noticed our group thinking “that doesn’t work like that”. For instance the chase seen with Dorric after her recon mission. She wildshaped 4-5 times during that scene? Thematically it was awesome but in game you can’t do that, or turn into an owlbear
Overall it was a great movie and we all enjoyed it thoroughly though!
I would argue that in the fight to escape their execution, while Hulga is brawling, Edgin is spending his action trying to get out of his restraints, but using his bonus action to inspire Hulga 😉
SPOILER MAYBE??
I was initially annoyed at how much they zipped across the map, constantly changing locations. Same with how the quests would get derailed, leading to sidequests, which then got derailed leading to sub-sidequests. About 1/3 of the way through the film I realized how closely this choppy pacing can sometimes infect my own games. I'm confident now, the pacing and plot are meant to mimic the experience at the table. Without breaking the 4th wall. Very cool.
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I think that Doric did have a character arc! I definitely wish we had seen more of it, and it was more developed, but it was there. She starts off being very distrusting of humans, especially Simon. This peaks when she finds out about Simon and the attuning while they're on the beach. However, as Simon's character grows, she begins to trust the party bit by bit and eventually has a real connection with them. I really like her character, I personally felt like they just ran out of time and cut a lot of her backstory out.
My girlfriend didn't want to see the movie… then she saw the trailer and was totally on board and we all enjoyed the movie through and through…
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I love when they escape the Underdark the ,,DM" can't just let them have the super OP paladin to join the party. So he just walks away. That was so fucking dnd-esk for me xd.