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Air Force veteran David Grusch claims the government is covering up UFOs and that he has seen evidence of a secret crash …
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Air Force veteran David Grusch claims the government is covering up UFOs and that he has seen evidence of a secret crash …
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This guy debunks everything, who should debunk him tho?!
Apparently Grusch met Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp at a UFO convention. If this is true then it sets alarm bells ringing. Also, why would you get someone to investigate UFOs if he's a believer in UFOs – you'd want someone agnostic who doesn't have an opinion. Also, I wonder how many of Gruschs' first hand witnesses were fed to him by George Knapp and the rest of the UFO cabal all bringing out the same old ' first hand experience " people who may never had any first hand experience?
Grusch is a deluded con man, we know that, but Ross Coulthart is such a pompous, gullible pseudo-journalist ! Shame on him !
Grusch: "I was briefed..", why is this guy again supposed to be a whistleblower?
Here's Mick West AGAIN (and there are others like him) who are going to seem mighty silly sorts in the not too distant future for sticking with such nonsense…
Here he pulls out a story of a Russian spacecraft having crash landed & recovered for back engineering 🙂 well done Mick, what a nonsense side track of a story (you trying to compare this with ROSWEL? he then goes on to say that he (David Grusch) might believe what he's saying is true, but he's likely to be mistaken about such things (because of course Mick West is way more qualified than Mr Grusch on such matters 😉 in your dreams!) Mr Grusch must have thought long & hard about going under oath concerning such matters & this was a brave & very gutsy thing to do…way more so than those who try to keep such secrets in place by intimidation & bad mouthing (like this guy's almost snide remarks here)
The (for me) most amusing part of this interview can be found here….
5:31 in we get…
The wonderful Elizabeth Vargas asking him (rightly) & most of us who know of Mr West had a good idea what his answer was going to be…to the Question of…
"Do you believe in UFO's? Do you believe in the possibility of UFO's?"
To which he replies…
I believe UFO's are a real thing & that we have unidentified flying objects (well you don't say…but his types are NOT of ET origin or Inter Dimensional & NEVER WILL EVER BE…they are as is continues…) that are probably things that are a combination of mundane things and foreign technology, I don't think they are aliens & I don't think they are doing anything particularly amazing.
The VIDEO evidence really doesn't stack up there….THERE YA GO 😉
This is a guy who might just possibly be a professionally PAID SKEPTIC? for the likes of NASA or the Secret Services agencies.
He's an out & out SKEPTIC, who has his own Webpage where he tries to DEBUNK EVERYTHING but NEVER comes down on the other side of such things even if it looks more likely to be of something remarkable than not…
I showed him a number of images…one of a decent sized BLACK object (I figured about the size of a small to medium car) I had seen & had photographed, I explained my encounter, I knew it was a machine of some kind…He came back with it's likely to be an insect 🙂 He's a JOKE! everyone on those pages jumped on the bandwagon (including his wife) stating it's more likely a KITE…a kiddies CASTLE Kite, I explained it was NOT such a thing & that it was much bigger than a simple kite & was under power (control) some months later, someone else kindly posted not just an image but a VIDEO LINK showing the same MADE OBJECT flying around in the skies of JAPAN, as to what it was? I have no idea but I knew it was a machine of some kind, HE (Mick West) was WRONG…badly wrong but he never posted on it again (to my knowledge) pathetic fellow.
He later REMOVED me from his pages & I e-mailed him another image showing a large object in Space, again photographed by myself & in which can be seen a doughnut shaped object (looking very much like a Space Station type, no JOKE) it even had a smaller object over to the far right of it. I asked him to post it on his pages OR better still tell me what HE thought it was…NO REPLY was forthcoming.
It's an interesting FACT that when one turns to folks & organisations you think might help in such fields to ASNWER such QUESTIONS you get either pushback or frankly NOTHING…
I was a fan (still am but to a lesser degree now) of Canadian Astronaut Col. Chris Hadfield, for a time he allowed me to address such things on his FACEBOOK PAGES but then perhaps one connected post to many had me BANNED from his pages…no warning or a kindly worded please don't use my pages for anymore of such postings, JUST BANNED…
As an ex Astronaut he knew & he was in a situation where he could see I was right concerning such things, in this case it was an image taken by the ICONIC APOLLO 11 crew from within Moon Orbit clearly showing a BASE SET up on the Moon 🙂 I know I'll probably get more flack from some here for mentioning such things (maybe from the Mick West lovies?) but it seems this image got me banned or it was just one too many for an Ex Astronaut who's a good guy but is held in place by PROTOCOLS from responding truthfully to such things & so for all my postings on such things he stayed quiet until just before Christmas when out of the Blue I recieved a little boxed message stating I could no longer access his Facebook page or post to it anymore 🙂 interesting.
I wouldn't put Col. Chris Hadfield in Mick West's corner as Col CH knows what he's taking about & never replied to any of my Questioning or images, however like Mike West he did BAN ME from posting anything else on their pages.
Just saying…one knew I was RIGHT (the Col) the other…MICK WEST hasn't got a CLUE as to what's going on up there & when he rejects all images, video & reports such as that from the Nimitz RADAR Operator then one knows he's just not taking in such information properly & being very selective.
Skeptic's (proper, fairly minded one's) are IMPORTANT to have as Elizabeth Vargas mentions here…but NOT HIS TYPE…you can do better than this sort & I hope you will?
Mick wast is being paid to debunk grusch isn't who would you believe?
Mick West…..legend.
Writer and retired video game programmer, says what? I think I'll go with the guy that earned multi-level security clearances in the military… thanks anyway.
Has anyone ever thought to ask "retired video game programmer" Mick West or investigate how much the pentagon pays him to make rounds in the media attempting to "debunk" UFOs? I'm just wondering what going rate is for a useful idiot.
Why does it take so long for to reveal the name (Mick West) of this pointy-headed pencilneck? Why hide it all the way bottom in the caption and you have to actually look for it? Just because he speaks with a British accent means he has credibility?
Hes forgetting all the pilot statements multpe witnesses and radar and photo video evidence. Theyre here.
Grusch doesn't have to solve this. Someone has to explain why he received retaliation for simply collating information for the UAP taskforce. If there was nothing to expose don't attack federal officers doing their job
How come Mr West's views have any more weight than 2000 YouTube commenters.I am fed up with him getting pulled into these discussions. Can they bring in Dr Haines
"The government is keeping UFO's from you! I have to tell you the truth. I'm blowing the whistle!"
"Are the aliens hostile?"
"I don't want to reveal anything classified."
WTF
extraordinary claims only require eye witness testimony and hearsay, apparently. You're all so smart.
Mick is a sensible hero. UFO nonsense to make money for Knapp and his crew.
He needs to witness one himself. Then his eyes will pop out and jaw hit the floor.
Really?
Mick West doesn't have any friends.
Says the Government who does experiment's on its own citizens in secret MK ultra… And you really expect the whole world to believe this trash.. What's next? Space aliens are causing climate change?????? Dreamland America is really loosing the plot or trying to dumb down the nation to a point of no return? and succeeding too. Question? Id rather know the truth about the 40ft Owl called Molock and Bohemian Grove. More information on Aliens and very little about world Elites at the Grove
This guy is biased, like all so-called "skeptics". There is no virtue in skepticism, no special value in being pre-disposed to reject statements out-of-hand. Scientists (and proper journalists, for that matter) are trained to be objective. The scientific method is about objectivity primarily, AND it utilizes the process of falsification – that is, testing theories, claims, findings, etc. with actual research. The latter most frequently takes the form of seeking to repeat the original findings. What cannot be falsified is eventually regarded as sound. West apparently does nothing resembling science; he simply takes an opposing position – mere kneejerk opinion – and spouts unproven (often unprovable) claims. Why anyone pays him attention is beyond me.
QUERY: WHY would respectable, intelligent men lie their heads off on world-wide TV? One of two things appears to be happening: either 1) they're telling the truth, or 2) they're lying publicly for their Andy Warhol fame time. (If one assumes the latter, one might just conclude that the top level of the American Military is composed of individuals who are actual, clinically insane narcissists/sociopaths with underlying exhibitionistic features.) What are we to think? If they're lying, their testimony could turn the military into a no man's land which respectable people want to part of. No loyal American military officer would EVER even conceive of such a thig, much less attempt to perpetrate a hoax of such magnitude on an entire planet.
The "resting Mitch face" strikes again!
This “whistleblower” guy is a BS artist and a waste of tax payer’s money. I hope he doesn’t get what he wants, a book/movie deal.
Isotopic ratios . . . heavy metal . . . periodic tables, you know, WEIRD , uhhhhh, STUFF!!!!!!! Grusch has pointed the essential feature of alien intelligence: they're into WEIRD STUFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Okay, I'm a sceptic of David Grosch.
He told us nothing. Literally, the beginning, middle and end of his entire story was, "I've heard we have alien ships and bodies." Well, okay– that's a good opening line to the story… but what else do you got? What are the details?
"Oh, that's it. There are no other details. But trust me… I was once a high-ranking military analyst with top secret clearance.
Um… I'm sorry guys/gals… but that doesnt impress me. If a licensed phycologist said, "My grandma once saw a ghost in her closet…" I wouldn't exactly be on the phone the next morning trying to schedule a congressional hearing.
What are the details? What evidence do you have? What proof do you have to validate this claim? What piece of information can you provide that makes this even an interesting story, let alone a convincing one?
If you work in an office setting long enough… no matter what industry you are in– you're going to begin collecting a litany of 'war stories' from your collogues. It's so common it's cliche. People standing around the water cooler swapping all sorts of gossipy- innuendos. I worked in the insurance industry for a long time. I heard it all… about clients who were drug dealers, clients filing fraudulent claims, clients killing their spouses for the insurance money and even agents having sex with clients in the boardroom. If I took all these stories at face value… I could conceivably convince myself that the company I worked for was, in fact, a secret brothel owned by a murderous, drug-dealing cartel.
I have no doubt, that if you talked to enough military personnel… particularly ones in aviation and intelligence sectors… you would end up with a whole bunch of wildly crazy stories. Enough to fill an entire season of the Twighlight Zone. But, that doesn't make it true. The human imagination is limitless; we LUV to tell stories and there's a reason Science fiction books, combined with fantasy, generated $590.2 million in revenue in the United States last year alone.
So far, that's all David Grosch has given us… a story. A rather flat, basic and boring one, at that. Even Bob Lazar had enough courteously to give details that made his tale a bit intriguing. But this Grosch guy literally just said, "We have alien ships and bodies, and the proof is, I had top secret clearance." So, let me get this straight. There is this massive government coverup that is so secret… not even members of Congress or the White House (dating back 100 years) know about it. But some mid-level analyst at the Pentagon and 30 of his buddies not only uncovered it… but routinely discuss it around the office. Please!
Grosch has given us nothing that a slightly creative 6th grader couldn't have conjured up the night before his book report was due. I hardly see why Congress waisted their time listening to this idiot.
I don't mean to point out grammer but you said Skeptic, I think in Australia it is spelt M O R O N
The very fact that the government is allowing these "whistleblowers" to talk, is a demonstration that this UFO disclosure is absolute horseshit. This is UFO phenomenon is one big social control experiment, mass controlling psychological operation, that has been running for decades….. How ironical to witness the anti-government crowds, swallowing government propaganda, when it fits their own narrative…..
Mick West and Jason Colavito are the only sane people discussing this topic. I had no idea that this is what happened to WGN. Sad.
Here comes the govt disinfo. I guess the gimble was a russian sattelite LMAO
David Grusch another upgraded version of Bob Lazar another phoney liar and deception artist.I believe he another military industrial complex plant just upgraded over Bob Lazar was in the 1983.
He got his 5 minute fame…NEXT.
Ooooh yaaaaaawn… Mick West seeking attention again. This guy… 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
This guy is not a skeptic , he is a disinformant. He has a stance against anything related to the subject. A skeptic views both sides. He is biased and is making assumptions of daves credibility based on his bias.
This aged like milk
Mick West has what we call in french une tête de con.. .